Cranky Corner: Suggested Reply to Upset Customer over Shipping Quote Error

May 28, 2011
This was a suggested response to a customer who was upset that the shipping cost displayed by her eBay invoice was 3X the cost shown by the item page on a multple purchase. (Honor the first shipping price, you fraud, or cancel my order!)   

Dear Customer, I apologize for the problem you noticed with the shipping price eBay calculated for you. Thank you for letting me know about that. I’ve checked it, and the proper shipping price to you should have been $xx.xx. I can’t tell you why eBay made that mistake, but I can understand why you were surprised by it! I’ve reported the error to eBay. Meanwhile, if you’d care for me to ship this to you at the correct price of $xx.xx, I’ll be happy to send you a corrected invoice. If you’d prefer not to have these items, I’ll be happy to send you an order cancellation. I want you to be happy, and to have a fair deal. Thanks again! I look forward to hearing from you.     

  What’s going on:   

  • Always open and close with appreciation for customer bringing problem forward. We bitch about it when they don’t write us and just burn our feedback/DSRs, so we need to step up.  Even if they’re full of it and trying to pull a fast one – we don’t know for sure - so we just need to be professional and handle it that way.
  • Always apologize for the poor experience, whether it’s your fault, the platform’s fault, the full moon…. “I’m sorry” is often the most powerful way to extinguish a fire.
  • Empathize with the customer – I wouldn’t like it if my shipping quote tripled once I’d placed an order. I can understand that, ma’am.
  • Customer actually accused the Seller of fraud because the shipping price was one number, then was something else later at payment time. It is not a passing of blame to eBay, rather creating the understanding that the Seller is not personally calculating those costs in real time – it’s just a computer glitch, and eBay’s the one in charge of the computers at eBay! So we plant the seed that it’s an eBay thing, then water the idea by taking responsibility for notifying eBay of the glitch, finally harvesting a solution: here’s a corrected shipping amount.
  • With the identified problem solved – the shipping has been corrected – let the customer decide what will make her happy: the correct price, or cancel the deal.
  • Invest in making the customer happy, even if it’s to your apparent disadvantage of losing a sale. Since no money’s changed hands or product shipped, this is a no-brainer. Mutual Agreement to Cancel kills the trade and saves adverse feedback/DSRs. Completing the trade gets you paid. Win-win.
  • Be upbeat when possible. This disarms the negativity. If we’re professional, upbeat, interested in a solution that satisfies the customer… what’s not to like?
  • In this instance, I create a need for a customer response and invite her participation in solving her situation. This is a play to get her invested (if she stays with the deal, we don’t want her to hammer our DSRs anyway because we laid any demands on her). In other instances, a stronger call to action might be used, but I want a softer touch as a counterpoint to her harsh demeanor in the initial contact.

If her follow-on reponse states other demands or issues, the Buyer is just trying to angle for a discount.  Feedback will get mentioned along with a veiled threat. You refer that on to eBay for action. 

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“Slip & Fall” Injury Sidelines Uncle Joe

December 1, 2010

As the title tells you, I took a hard fall that seriously injured my back last September. I’ve mostly been laying down recuperating ever since. This has compounded other health issues and just totally sidelined me like few events in my life have ever done.

Lesson One: Back injuries suck. I don’t recommend it.

A number of folks have been remarkably kind to me in the aftermath, in tender small ways and crazy big ways. Putting up with me when I’ve been in agony all day probably qualifies as both (thanks to my missus in particular).

Lesson Two: Never underestimate your impact on other people. I’ve been touched by total strangers who took a moment to send me a thoughtful little note.

I say all this because we’re into the holiday season now, and folks travel and gather. Be careful when you do – don’t let unfamiliar places, cold weather and travel dangers get you. And be kind to the people with whom you interact, from the coffee shop waitress along the way to the whacky relatives (and their crazier neighbors!) who await you. A little smile may be the greatest, most awesome gift you can give to another person.

Happy holidays!

Uncle Joe

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“Free Shipping” Gets Automatic 5 Star DSR on eBay

August 24, 2010

The eBay feedback DSR for Shipping & Handling is automatically getting 5 Star ratings if the Seller offered FREE SHIPPING, according to alert reader SimplyMyBusiness. I was able to test and verify this myself later in the evening, though it isn’t clear that it’s anything other than a trial run.

When leaving feedback the Buyer is asked, “How reasonable were the shipping and handling charges?” If FREE SHIPPING was offered in the trade, the DSR stars are greyed out – locked – with a blue link next to the line, saying, “Why can’t I enter this rating?” It looks like this capture I made below.

Feedback Entry for S&H DSR is Greyed Out

Click to see larger graphic

When the mouse is moved over for an explanation, a word balloon opens up: “Free shipping automatically gives the seller a five-star rating.”

Because this has not been formally announced, it may only be a test of this set-up. It would certainly be a welcome change with many Sellers who have complained bitterly that any rating lower than a “5″ for S&H was unfair when FREE SHIPPING had been offered.

Today’s “PowerUp” newsletter said, “Starting in October, when you offer free shipping you could automatically get 5-star DSRs for shipping costs when your buyer chooses free shipping.” This would seem to foreshadow this as a permanent change before the holidays. The eBay newsletter added, “Listing with free shipping can also get a boost in Best Match for Fixed Price (where applicable), and visibility in Free Shipping search filters.” An official announcement about all this could come at any time, though eBay may wait until next week’s “eBay On Location” event in San Jose, CA to discuss any change.

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First Three Words Not Key to eBay Search

August 22, 2010

Not long ago, somebody got it all figured out: the key to being found on eBay search was the first three words in a title. Only these first three keywords, it was explained, were used to determine if the search the Buyer entered was a match to the item. Like other “kinda-sorta-maybe” things that find their way to the internet, this idea was picked up and repeated.

Problem is, it isn’t true.

The words in a search are all used (otherwise, what would be the point of the extra Title words? What if the Buyer’s search was more than three words?) Right now, I have an item listed with a Title that is several words long. The last three are printing 1991 LN. If this new urban legend were right, one simply wouldn’t find my item – the search would only look at the first three keywords and skip ahead. My item does get found, however, because all the keywords in a listing title are searchable.

This probably started off as an explanation about search optimization, since making the listing title “human readable” is smart – people do read these things! – but the computer doesn’t care. And because we’re English speakers, the best words first make more sense to us. (I taught this very thing this weekend.) Somewhere along the line this has been misunderstood and passed on that the search won’t find something – not a human shopper – unless the first few words are the best keywords.

This sort of thing will be a problem everywhere on the internet for the foreseeable future. Fortunately, a little fact-checking and critical thought is enough to debunk most of these things. There is mystery surrounding Best Match, and there is concern over unfair placement by eBay, plus the economy, competition from the Chinese, and so forth. People are looking for answers that help explain their situation.

This wasn’t it.

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Uncle Joe Radio Returns from Break

August 21, 2010

I’ve been taking things easy for a little while here in the Oklahoma heat. I’ve been able to get a few things done, explore others, and generally rest up after realizing I needed to dial things back in the first place. (Boy, can I be hard-headed about such things!) I’ll tell you more soon about what I’ve been up to and hope to do. Right now, I’m gearing up for a trip out to San Jose, CA and looking at the upcoming holiday season. Thanks for visiting, I’ll talk to you soon.

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eBay Special – Stores Users Get 10 Cent Auctions July 27-28

July 26, 2010

 eBay gives Stores users two days of 10 cent Auction listings from midnight tonight (July 27) through midnight Wednesday (July 28), no matter the opening price. Sellers are cautioned to do their research before slapping something valuable down without a good idea of recent market demand and price. But for a dime, it may just pay off.

Here is the announcement made by Dinesh Lathi, eBay’s Vice President of Seller and Buyer Experience:

“For two days only—July 27 and July 28—list Auction-style for just 10¢ Insertion Fees, any start price, when you have an eBay Stores subscription. This offer applies to listings on eBay, eBay Motors Parts & Accessories and eBay Canada. Most categories are included, but please check out the information page for full details.”

The announcement and its links can be read in its entirety in eBay’s Annoucement Board.

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eBay Drops the AdCommerce Program of Internal PPC Ad Sales

July 1, 2010

eBay sent email today announcing that the AdCommerce ads program would be terminated as of August 14. eBay was pushing the program as late as eBay On Location: Dallas in May.

Experience would suggest that eBay already has something up its sleeve to replace the program’s ad sales – though perhaps not internally to eBay Sellers. If eBay returns to selling off-site advertising, or restricts sales to its favored mass-retail clients, I would anticipate some backlash from smaller sellers who are increasingly vocal about moves that affect their ability to compete in the marketplace.

UPDATE: eBay’s “Griff” said on this afternoon’s “eBay Radio” program that there were no plans to replace the program.

The AdCommerce program was eBay’s most recent “pay-per-click” effort to sell advertising on the marketplace site.  The email announcement, in part, read as follows below.

We know you’ve either registered for or purchased AdCommerce pay-per-click advertising placements recently to promote your eBay Store or listings. We wanted to let you know this advertising program will be discontinued for eBay.com and eBay.ca on August 4 to ensure the most relevant listings from sellers providing the best prices and service are highlighted in search results.

You do not need to do anything-these AdCommerce placements will no longer be available for eBay.com or eBay.ca and any ads you already purchased to appear on these sites will automatically expire on August 4. Your final billing will be sent out in early September.

eBay has been busy the last couple of years picking up the pennies where it could find them.  We’ll have to see what they decide to do next.

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Paypal Fees Increase, Change Nearer to Industry Standards

June 15, 2010

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A recent PayPal announcement has surfaced of the payment services intention to make several changes in its fees.  This has been met with a lot of complaining and grandstanding, so you’re probably wondering, “What’s going on?”

There are three particularly important changes.  The first one, scheduled to begin in late August, makes the $0.30 USD fixed fee paid per transaction non-refundable.  This fee is the set amount charged when a payment is received, plus a percentage fee on the payment.  If a full refund were given to the customer, PayPal had allowed for all fees to refund to the customer.  No more, says PayPal: if a complete refund is given, that’s okay – but the 30 cent transaction fee will not be refunded.  This is typical of the payments industry, and is not a cause for alarm.  Not only is it just like everybody else in the business, but it doesn’t have anything to do with partial refunds for, say, overcharging a buck on shipping costs.  You give the buyer a buck back, and you aren’t charged anything for those partials.

The other fee that’s raising some hackles is the “Chargeback Fee” which PayPal assesses when an issuing bank or Card Service demands a payment be returned.  Again, this is an industry standard, and PayPal’s fee for a chargeback is going from $10 to $20 USD.  Important for Sellers is that chargebacks are not Buyer Protection cases found for the Buyer, or a seller’s decision to  refund any or all money.  Chargebacks are a special circumstance where PayPal is told “we want our money back” from the issuer.  This can be because of automated loss prevention systems, or the buyer saying the purchase was unauthorized or unknown on his statement, or several other reasons.  Chargebacks are often taken care of by a seller qualifying for PayPal Seller Protection.  Chargebacks can also be appealed in the same way that Buyer Protection complaints are handled: proof of shipment, delivery, and messages and feedback showing buyer receipt and satisfaction – they can’t argue they didn’t get something if a seller can show they did!  But if a chargeback sticks, and the seller isn’t covered by Seller Protection, the money goes back and a fee is levied on PayPal – which means on the Seller, and that charge will go from $10 to $20 USD. 

The third thing of note is a power move by American Express for those using PayPal’s Virtual Terminal or Website Pro-type external services for AMEX credit card payments.  AMEX is changing lanes with its own deal out there in cyberspace, so it wants sellers to make a special agreement with them that dictates their service.  It’s all meant to advantage AMEX and their own payment system as they bring it online.  This is also typical for American Express operation, and is just one of those Big Company things merchants have to deal with.

Bottom line for sellers is this is a fee increase of sorts on absolute refunds.  If a forced refund were to result because of a Buyer Protection claim filed against the seller, the seller would lose the refund.  The 30 cent charge for handling the money in the first place remains with PayPal.  If a bank or card company hits a seller with a chargeback that sticks, and the seller is not covered by Seller Protection, the $10 fee will go up to $20.  Lastly, unless a seller has historically processed a lot of AMEX payments, they may have just taken themselves out of the PayPal game – a dangerous gambit with PayPal’s market penetration.  All in all, this is not only just business as usual, but in line with the fees and how business has operated with payment processing for years.  It is part of the maturing of the internet as regular, experienced business gets integrated into operating on the net. 

I don’t care for rate hikes and changing fees and moving rules, but it’s not so bad when it’s something common to how businesses have worked in the past few years.. and it’s really more of what we should expect in the way that businesses operate today.
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The announced changes can be seen here at this PayPal link.

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Today We Remember Them

May 31, 2010

Memorial Day, May 31, 2010 – Today we pause in recognition of those men and women lost in service to this nation. Today we use words like “duty,” “honor,” “valor,” and “sacrifice” when we speak of them.  Today we renew our collective vow to never forget those who have paid this most terrible cost when purchasing our freedom.  Today, we remember.

To all my comrades-at-arms for your privations in and out of war; to those gone now to their eternal watch, free at last of all concerns; to those who do and have served, who carry the memories no others may; and to those family, friends and loved ones who have known us all and supported us throughout:  thank you.

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Oklahoma Gets Twisted, But We’re OK

May 12, 2010

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Over a Dozen Tornadoes Touch Down in OK on May 10, 2010

The tornado attack on the Oklahoma City area Monday was an intense time here at Uncle Joe’s studio.  Just as rush hour began, severe weather started to blanket the greater Oklahoma City metro.  Strong winds and hailstones – some as large as softballs – accompanied these storms as they passed overhead. 

And then the sirens began to howl out their nightmare warning: tornadoes!

The first was spotted roping across the western sky in the NW suburb of Yukon.   It didn’t appear to be very strong, but these things are known to quickly become damaging.

Within a few minutes, another tornado was spotted to the southwest near the southern suburb of Moore.  This bedroom community still reels from the memory of a category F5 (300+ mph winds) on May 3, 1999 that carved a mile-wide path of destruction through town. 

Warning sirens were sounded again and again as the threats appeared and diminished  just as quickly over the next two hours.   Tornadoes crossed two Interstate Highways.  One TV helicopter pilot reported being underneath one rotating cloud formation while looking at a different tornado.  With the skies boiling, the pilot had to perform an emergency dive to gain enough airspeed to escape the winds clutching at his aircraft. 

The largest tornadoes began near the southern metro city of Norman, OK,  home of Oklahoma University.  One crossed from NE Norman into SE Oklahoma City and beyond to the northeast.   Another formed to the south of Norman and headed E-NE across five counties, wreaking havok in the towns of Tecumseh and Seminole.  These tornadoes produced much of the damage that you’ve seen on television: the wiped-out trailer park, twisted cell and power towers, and the amazing survival story at a demolished Love’s Country Store truck stop.  Over a dozen tornadoes would come down statewide.

The fatal storms injured over 100 and destroyed as many homes.  Nearly 10,000 were reported to be without electricity, mainly due to damage to heavy transmission lines and equipment.  Amazingly, only two deaths have been reported so far in the aftermath of the outbreak.

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